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Eric Schleien discusses value investing, rational investment analysis, and vital mental models.
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Monday Sep 27, 2021
Monday Sep 27, 2021
Join Eric Schleien as he discusses Altria Group Inc (NYSE: MO) with Jason Rivera from Value Investing Journey. Eric Schleien has been following Altria for many years and brought Jason on after he saw that he’s talked about it on his website. For those who don’t know, Altria is the maker of Marlboro cigarettes and is considered the ultimate sin stock. You can make the argument that the stock has often been cheap due to the fact it is a sin stock leading to high rates of returns over many decades.
About Eric Schleien
To learn more about Eric Schleien, check out his personal website and business website. You can also reach out to him on Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.
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If you'd like to read Eric Schleien’s book, you can find it on Amazon.
What Are Sin Stocks?
Sin stocks are public companies involved in activities that are considered unethical by society, such as alcohol, tobacco, gambling, adult entertainment or weapons. ESG investors tend to exclude sin stocks, as the companies involved are thought to be making money from exploiting human weaknesses and vices.
Why Do People Avoid Sin Stocks?
A common question people ask is why do people avoid sin stocks? In reality, a stock doesn’t know you own it. As long as you aren’t participating in a secondary offering, you buying stock in Altria in no way contributes to the tobacco industry. However, even though that is the reality, there are many reasons why people avoid sin stocks. For example, there is an entire investment industry around what is coined ESG. ESG stands for Environmental, Social, and Governance. Companies are given a score based on a variety of metrics. This has led to a whole new money making scheme in the name of “feeling good” about what you’re investing in despite the fact it makes no actual impact to the planet. However, this ESG fad has led to opportunities for prudent investors.
Altria Stock Valuation
Jason discusses how he values Altria. Jason assumes the company is worth 11x EBIT which he considers high for most companies but appropriate for Altria. That would get you to a value of about $129.5 billion. Then, if you add cash of just under $2 billion and subtract the company’s $28.2 billion in debt, that gets you to a value of about $101
Most companies, I wouldn't value it. An 11 X EBIT, multiple them. I would, again, for the competitive advantage we already talked about, so that gets us to a value of about 129.5 billion. Plus cash they had about just under $2 billion cash minus all of their debt at $28.2 billion. That gets us to a value of about $101.3 billion. This contrasts to a current market cap of about $93 billion.
What’s The IRR For Altria Stock?
Jason assumes that the future returns for Altria will essentially be their dividend of just over 7%. In addition, Jason believes the company will be a good hedge for inflation. This IRR is much higher than a US Treasury Bond and he believes it is a good fit for a long-term portfolio with someone who is extremely risk averse.
About Jason Rivera
To learn more about Jason Rivera, check out his website: Value Investing Journey
Friday Sep 24, 2021
Friday Sep 24, 2021
Hi, it's Eric Schleien, and welcome back to another episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast! In this episode, I had the pleasure of sitting down with the wonderful Jason Rivera who runs Value Investing Journey. I've always liked government contractors due to the sticky nature of their business, high margins, and lots of recurring revenue. I also love them when they are tiny and undiscovered and filling some interesting niche or segment of their market. A company that seems to possibly fit that bill is WidePoint Corporation (WYY).
What Is WidePoint Corporation?
WidePoint Corporation (WYY) is the leading provider of Trusted Mobility Management (TM2) solutions. TM2 converges at the intersection of WidePoint’s pioneering Telecom Lifecycle Management (TLM), Telecom Bill Presentment & Analytics, Mobile and Identity (IdM) Management solutions.
Market demand for secure mobile management such as WidePoint TM2 solutions is increasing due to security risks and vulnerabilities that could result from allowing mobile devices and cloud-based applications access to an organization’s technology infrastructure. In today’s connected world with high-profile data breaches, it is important for an enterprise to have a TM2 solution in place to protect valuable mobile assets and infrastructure while complying with changes in privacy and data protection laws and regulations. WidePoint TM2 solutions provide security, manageability, and visibility of an enterprise’s mobile assets and services through a single platform supported by our secure TM2 framework.
WidePoint is the leading provider of customized telecom and mobile management solutions to the U.S. public sector. WidePoint has a diverse portfolio of government and commercial clients, serving global and international enterprises and the Fortune 100 across a multitude of industries.
More About Eric Schleien
To learn more about me, Eric Schleien, check out my personal website and business website. You can also reach out to me on Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.
If you'd like to read my book, you can find it on Amazon. Reviews are appreciated!
Get In Touch With Jason Rivera
To learn more about Jason Rivera, check out his website: Value Investing Journey
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Tuesday Sep 21, 2021
Eric Schleien hosts the September Roundtable for Finance Podcast Week. Join Eric Schleien, host of the Intelligent Investing Podcast, with Andrew Sather and Jason Rivera for a jam packed hour long finance roundtable.
Eric Schleien Discusses Real Estate Stocks
In this episode, Eric Schleien sits down with Andrew Sather and Jason Rivera to discuss two real estate stocks.
- Laaco Ltd (LAACZ), which owns the Los Angeles Athletic Club and has a Self-Storage Business.
- Cedar Realty Trust (CDR), which owns grocery anchored retail outlets across the United States.
Eric Schleien believes that both of these are cheap real estate stocks that would be some of the best picks for 2021. Both of these stocks are special situations as it is likely that both of these will be selling core assets for a higher price than the current market value. In Cedar’s case, they may sell the entire company. With Laaco, they may sell their self-storage business at what would almost certainly be a higher price than the current market price if they were to get a fair valuation on the assets.
Eric Schleien Discusses Modern Value Investing
One of the things that Eric points out during the roundtable is that modern GAAP accounting isn’t always appropriate for companies such as Amazon (AMZN) or Trupanion (TRUP) to show true value of the business. For example, Amazon’s R&D expense he believes is an asset even though it gets run through the income statement as an expense.
To learn more about Eric Schleien, check out his personal website and business website. You can also reach out to him on Twitter, Instagram, and LinkedIn.
If you'd like to read his book, you can find it on Amazon.
Jason Rivera Discusses Altria Stock
During the episode Jason Rivera discusses Altria (MO) as a potential value investment due to the stability of the business mixed with a high dividend yield. Jason believes that Altria is a better inflation hedge than buying TIPS.
To learn more about Jason Rivera, check out his website: Value Investing Journey
Andrew Sather Discusses Defense Contractors
Andrew believes that defense contractors offer good value in this market. As a value investor, he is always looking for sectors and companies that are being mispriced by the market for various reasons.
To learn more about Andrew Sather, check out his website: Investing For Beginners
Tuesday Aug 03, 2021
Tuesday Aug 03, 2021
Principles Of Power
My book Principles Of Power: The Art & Wisdom of Badassery is now available on Amazon. I would be extremely grateful if you could pick up a copy and write an honest review. Would mean the world!
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance. To learn more about Eric's work, check out his ontological coaching firm, Transformational Leadership Associates.
Summary
In this episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien sits down with Evan Bleker of Net-Net Hunter to discuss a tiny little company, McCoy Global Inc. (MCB.TO) with a current market cap of $21 million.
Show Notes
[00:48] Tiny little company traded on Canadian Venture Exchange
[2:14] A study on net-nets that buying at a huge discount to net current asset value doesn't enhance performance that much
[4:21] The company is cash flow positive
[5:26] Modeling out different scenarios (classic Dhandho!)
[6:09] Could be a $2/stock if drilling takes off
About Evan Bleker
Evan Bleker is a professional investor who has built his track record by buying high quality net net stocks. When not researching stocks, he focuses his time on helping small investors learn the strategy so they can earn great returns.
Evan manages two investing websites: Net Net Hunter and Broken Leg Investing.
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Thursday Jul 29, 2021
Thursday Jul 29, 2021
I had a blast chatting with Evan Bleker who runs Net-Net Hunter. We discussed an interesting little company that many of you may be familiar with called ADDvantage Technologies Group, Inc. (AEY).
Show Notes
[00:35] Overview of ADDvantage
[1:23] The 5G Rollout
[2:05] How 5G Cell Towers Work
[4:13] The Impact of COVID on ADDvantage
[5:15] What it will take for the company to breakeven
[6:18] The Delta COVID strain & Telecom Companies
[7:52] The company may go bankrupt
[9:53] Large upside in stock if they don't go to 0
[11:41] Brief discussion on American Tower (AMT)
Tuesday Jul 06, 2021
Tuesday Jul 06, 2021
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance. To learn more about Eric's work, check out his ontological coaching firm, Transformational Leadership Associates.
Summary
In this episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien sits down with Braxton Gann to discuss another shipping company, Dorian LPG (LPG). Braxton believes the business is cheap due to the business trading at a steep discount to its Net Asset Value.
Show Notes
[2:10] Shipping has been in a bull market
[2:37] Track record of management
[4:45] Eric Schleien pushing back on Braxton on concerns about shipping stocks
[8:08] How to make money with shipping stocks
[10:26] Recap on Scorpio Tankers
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Thursday Jul 01, 2021
Thursday Jul 01, 2021
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance. To learn more about Eric's work, check out his ontological coaching firm, Transformational Leadership Associates.
Summary
In this episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien sits down with Braxton Gann to discuss Stealth Gas (GASS). Braxton believes the business is cheap due to the business trading at a steep discount to its Net Asset Value.
Show Notes
[1:19] About the company
[2:19] "Shipping has been one of the worst industries over the past decade..."
[3:13] Value of the second hand market for ships
[3:54] Resource Recommendation: Value Investors Edge
[5:02] Investment Risks
[6:58] Salaries in the shipping industry
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Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
Tuesday Jun 22, 2021
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance.
Podbean
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NET NET HUNTER
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Summary
On today's episode, I sit down with Jason Rivera who is self-taught value investor that focuses on small and obscure public companies to buy for his investors and subscribers.
He teaches others how to become great value investors via three of his services: The Value Investing Training Vault, The Value Investing Masterclass, Our Value Investing Coaching Program
He also have various other mini courses, masterminds, and other online and live events related to value investing and capital allocation as well.
On his Value Investing Journey blog, YouTube, and social media pages he also releases a ton of free content to help people learn how to become a world class value investor.
He also consults, advises, and values and evaluates businesses for business owners with his company Alpha Capital Allocation.
Jason find areas to improve these businesses operations, profitability, cash flow and value, and then shows them how to do it.
He is the author of the acclaimed value investing education book How To Value Invest.
He is also the author of On Float.
Jason has run his blog Value Investing Journey for nearly a decade and the site has been named a top 50 value investing blog in the world four times now.
And his two value investing and education sites have been Named Top 15 Value Investing Podcasts In The World.
He also manage investment portfolios for clients.
Between the blog, his YouTube Channel, Quora, Twitter, LinkedIn, and various other sources he's had more than 500,000 views of his content worldwide.
Jason has written for several publications and investment newsletters including Seeking Alpha, The Palm Beach Letter, Wyatt Research, Insider Monkey, Guru Focus, and others.
He's a member of the Rutgers University CX Advisory Board and also a member of the John Maxwell Team as a Coach, Teacher, and Trainer.
Show Notes
[3:33] Stock Market Valuations
[9:33] Tech industry profits are skyrocketing...
[12:45] Bonds are horrible investments right now...
[16:49] What stock to own in an inflationary environment...
[18:00] Commercial and single family real estate
[18:19] JM Smucker $SJM
[21:50] Apple $AAPL
[22:29] General Mills $GIS
[23:44] The future of Intel $INTC
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Thursday Jun 17, 2021
Thursday Jun 17, 2021
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance.
Podbean
This podcast is sponsored by Podbean. Podbean is probably the easiest way to create your own podcast. We use Podbean to host the Intelligent Investing Podcast and my new podcast, The Eric Schleien Podcast. Download the free Podbean Podcast App, to start, record, and publish your very own podcast in minutes. Podbean provides everything you need to run your podcast and you can record and publish episodes directly from the app on your phone. Check it out!
TIKR.COM
This episode is brought to you by TIKR.com. This is a product I personally use for researching stocks at my firm. TIKR.com is focused on bringing institutional-quality investment research tools to individual investors. TIKR.com is powered by S&P Global CapitalIQ and has coverage of 50k+ stocks globally with financials, estimates, valuation metrics, ownership, transcripts, news, filings, and more. Join TIKR.com‘s free beta today with tikr.com/intelligent
NET NET HUNTER
This episode is sponsored by Net Net Hunter. If you’re interested in finding high-quality stocks trading at fractions of liquidation value – this research service is for you. I personally use this service at my firm to help me research tiny and obscure net-net stocks all around the world. Using Net Net Hunter comes out to way less money than hiring an analyst to do the exact same thing manually. It’s a service I love and I am proud to be able to offer this service to my listeners. If this is something you’re interested in, please click here.
Summary
On today's episode, I sit down with Andrew Sather who is a self-taught investor since 2012. He specializes in identifying value traps and avoiding stock market bankruptcies. You can also listen to his podcast - Investing For Beginners.
Show Notes
[2:29] Infrastructure Bill
[3:34] Not a typical minding company - economic moat
[4:32] Long-term industry tailwinds
[5:27] 125 year quarry rights
[7:56] Valuing the business
[9:47] Discussing $MLM's competitor Vulcan Materials $VMC
Resources
- Seeking Alpha Articles by Andrew Sather
- E-Investing for Beginners
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Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
Tuesday Jun 15, 2021
New Podcast
Hey All! I’ve started a second show completely devoted to the field of Ontology which is another huge passion of mine. Please check out The Eric Scheien Podcast which is an ontological podcast where I break down distinctions of human consciousness as an access to enhancing performance.
Podbean
This podcast is sponsored by Podbean. Podbean is probably the easiest way to create your own podcast. We use Podbean to host the Intelligent Investing Podcast and my new podcast, The Eric Schleien Podcast. Download the free Podbean Podcast App, to start, record, and publish your very own podcast in minutes. Podbean provides everything you need to run your podcast and you can record and publish episodes directly from the app on your phone. Check it out!
TIKR.COM
This episode is brought to you by TIKR.com. This is a product I personally use for researching stocks at my firm. TIKR.com is focused on bringing institutional-quality investment research tools to individual investors. TIKR.com is powered by S&P Global CapitalIQ and has coverage of 50k+ stocks globally with financials, estimates, valuation metrics, ownership, transcripts, news, filings, and more. Join TIKR.com‘s free beta today with tikr.com/intelligent
NET NET HUNTER
This episode is sponsored by Net Net Hunter. If you’re interested in finding high-quality stocks trading at fractions of liquidation value – this research service is for you. I personally use this service at my firm to help me research tiny and obscure net-net stocks all around the world. Using Net Net Hunter comes out to way less money than hiring an analyst to do the exact same thing manually. It’s a service I love and I am proud to be able to offer this service to my listeners. If this is something you’re interested in, please click here.
Summary
In today's episode, I sit down with Andrew Sather who is a self-taught investor since 2012. He specializes in identifying value traps and avoiding stock market bankruptcies. You can also listen to his podcast - Investing For Beginners.
Show Notes
[3:06] Walmart vs Target
[7:11] Returns on Invested Capital & Re-investment opportunity
[8:14] Valuing Target
[9:40] Corporate waste at Walmart
Resources
- Seeking Alpha Articles by Andrew Sather
- E-Investing for Beginners
HELP OUT THE PODCAST
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