Episodes

Sunday Jan 05, 2020
#74: Christian Olesen | Cambria Automobiles Update (CAMB)
Sunday Jan 05, 2020
Sunday Jan 05, 2020
It's been a while since we've talked about Cambria Automobiles on the Intelligent Investing Podcast. You can hear the original episode we did on Cambria, here.
Update
Cambria Automobiles came out with earnings around the end of November. The stock was up ~15% on that news. The company increased earnings by ~25% over the previous year whereas the rest of the car dealership industry was down because of poor new car sales in the UK.
Cambria is up mostly because of new dealerships and startup losses are not turning into profits.
There are three categories of profits for car dealerships:
- New Car Sales (NCS)
- Used Car Sales (UCS)-used car
- After Sales (Parts & Service)
All three categories for Cambria were up which is an amazing accomplishment. It's even more incredible for NCS because that's the number one driver for the industry being down this year.
Why Is Cambria Different?
Because the company started fibve luxury dealerships around 18-24 months ago. Luxury dealerships have more profit contribution when they mature than non-luxury which is what most of the industry is.

Wednesday Dec 11, 2019
Wednesday Dec 11, 2019
Summary
Discussion of investment philosophy
Stocks we discussed

Wednesday Oct 30, 2019
Wednesday Oct 30, 2019
Show Summary
Happy day before Halloween! This is a very special episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast. I bring Brian Langis back on the show to discuss Brookfield Asset Management which we have discussed before. We go into some of the slides from Brookfield Investor Day 2019 on both Brookfield Asset Management and also some of their subs such as Brookfield Business Partners. We discuss larger trends, low and negative interest rates, valuations, and culture.
Cultural Activism
We spend quite a while on the cultural activism going on at Brookfield Business Partners led by their COO, Denis Turcotte. I had the pleasure of meeting him at the Brookfield Investor Day and noticed he wasn't just giving lip service to culture but actually doing it and knew he didn't learn this from business school. Many of you don't know this but I have a 10 year background in transformational coaching and a 7 year background specifically on organizational culture- not just understanding it but actually empowering organizations to elevate it. Brookfield Business Partners is actually working with businesses to elevate culture not just talk about it and no surprise, profits go up!
Better Culture Equals Greater Profits
One of the things I have discussed with my colleagues John King and Scott Forgey is that greater culture equates to greater profits. John King is the inventor of Tribal Leadership which is the most cutting edge and leading cultural transformation technology on the planet. Scott Forgey is working with me on empowering organizations to elevate their culture, except we are focusing on public companies. When an organization goes from what is known as Stage 2 to Stage 4, profits go up by an average of 300% - 500%.
Relevant Links For This Episode
- Eric Schleien interviews John King on Tribal Leadership | Thrive Global
- Cultural Activism: A New Model For Activism | The Intelligent Investing Podcast
- Netflix, Sears, Tribal Leadership | The Intelligent Investing Podcast
- How To Keep Large Companies Innovative | The Intelligent Investing Podcast
- The Oaktree / Brookfield Transaction | The Intelligent Investing Podcast
- 2019 Brookfield Investor Day Slides | Brookfield Asset Management Investor Relations
- Getting Into The Weeds: Recap on Brookfield Asset Management | The Intelligent Investing Podcast
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Tuesday Sep 17, 2019
#69: Braxton Gann; Shipping Companies; IMO 2020
Tuesday Sep 17, 2019
Tuesday Sep 17, 2019
In this episode of The Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien sits down with Braxton Gann to discuss two shipping companies, Scorpio Tankers (STNG) and Diamond S Shipping Company (DSSI).
Overview
IMO 2020
The Tanker Thesis
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Monday Sep 09, 2019
#68: Eric Schleien; Trupanion; Slowing Growth; Issues in California
Monday Sep 09, 2019
Monday Sep 09, 2019
In this episode of the Intelligent Investing Podcast, Eric Schleien discusses Trupanion (TRUP).
OVERVIEW
The price of Trupanion (TRUP) stock has recently declined from the mid 30’s/share to the low 20’s/share. Trupanion has high short interest due to claims of overvaluation on a price to book level and due to claims that the business model is flawed and unsustainable. Even some longs are selling the stock. For example, Todd Wenning of Ensemble Capital shared in a recent blog post from his online publication Intrinsic Investing that he has grown concerned with Trupanion’s ability to communicate their value proposition to pet owners and that Trupanion has trailed the industry growth rate as defined by the North American Pet Health Insurance Association (NAPHIA), after years of outperformance.
CONCERNS RAISED BY ENSEMBLE CAPITAL
In addition, Todd shares a few concerns on his blog:
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Todd assumes that when there are industry tailwinds, most companies with what he refers to as “emerging moats” should be able to continue to gain market share and recently this hasn’t happened with Trupanion. He cites this as a red flag.
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Todd also explains that Trupanion is often the first brand that vet customers hear from their vets yet Trupanion has a slowing growth rate and is not outpacing the industry recently
There have also been concerns raised on Seeking Alpha that California raised their prices by 150% in California since 2015 with an additional 20% price-hike this year. He has concerns that this will lead to adverse selection which is a worst nightmare scenario for any insurer: healthy pets leaving due to higher prices while the sick pets stay leading to unsustainable losses.
FAULTY ASSUMPTIONS
However, there are some faulty assumptions here.
Yes, it’s true that Trupanion subscription growth only grew a bit over 15% compared to the industry’s 17% growth rate, but looking at this alone doesn’t tell the entire story. In reality, Trupanion is growing faster than the industry when you compare similar products in the marketplace. For example, there are lots of cheap products in the pet insurance marketplace that really aren’t comparable. In addition, some companies are underpricing during a period where the pet insurance category is gaining more awareness. We have seen this before.
COMPETITORS UNDERPRICING POLICIES
Trupanion competitors from time to time will grow faster than the category due to mis-priced policies. For example, Nationwide grew pretty quickly and grabbed market share two years ago. However, they had to pull back after a year because they couldn’t price their product properly Another example is Healthy Paws. If we look at Healthy Paws, they have grown pretty quickly. However, if you look at their pricing, they’re able to get away with it because they keep switching underwriters and they keep rolling over new pets to new books of business. Healthy Paws recently had to change their product by introducing caps, changing their deductible structure to longer having zero deductibles. In addition, we see pricing increases of 30% on top of natural age based pricing factors. The fact that they are mis-priced has now become a problem for Healthy Paws. In Washington, they can’t even underwrite policies anymore.
THE CALIFORNIA FALLACY
California is getting a lot of attention for Trupanion. However, this concern is also totally unwarranted and blown completely out of proportion. Just like Trupanion, Healthy Paws also files in California and 34% of pets need more than a 50% pricing increase. That’s base rate increases + 15% = 65%. California, however, is capped at 50%.
The way you win your insurance category long-term is to price more accurately than your competition. Short-term this means you won’t always be growing faster due to the ebbing and flowing of the many other pet insurance competitors that underprice their policies. This has never been shown to be sustainable (obviously) and economic reality always settles in within a few years time. Trupanion is by far the best in the business when it comes to pricing policies accurately to get their 70% target as quickly as they can.
California is no different than what Trupanion has disclosed on their main book of business. Nothing would suggest that churn is different in California despite the massive pricing increases in recent years. One-third of Trupanion customers interact with the product in the first year. The company is processing 80,000 claims/month and the average claim is only a few hundred dollars. When rates increase, there is an increased churn of 20% across their entire book, California is no different. One of the biggest opportunities for Trupanion currently is their first year churn rate.
The reality in California is that the greatest usage amongst Trupanion customers are specialty and referral hospitals (cancer centers, cardiologists, urologists, etc). This leads to greater Trupanion customer population density. The California market has seen large increases in these types of hospitals and the Trupanion customers are seeing value in them as can be seen through claims passing through those hospitals.
BUSINESS AS USUAL
The business model is not broken. None of this should be news. The panic ensues by those who can’t see the context behind the numbers. However, I’m happy to have the shorts keep shorting. Recently, the borrow rate on shares has climbed to nearly 10% meaning that through Interactive Brokers, myself and my investors through Granite State Capital Management are getting ~5% interest on our shares.
Disclosure: Granite State Capital Management manages SMA’s with positions Trupanion (TRUP). However, this could change at anytime without prior notice. This is not a buy or sell recommendation. I wrote this article myself, and I am expressing my own opinions. I am not receiving compensation for this post.
SHOW LINKS
- Why We Sold Trupanion (Intrinsic Investing Blog)
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Trupanion: $8 Price Target, Adverse Selection Exposed In Filings (Seeking Alpha)
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Trupanion: Downgrading To $1 As Rate Spiral Takes Hold (Seeking Alpha)
- TRUPANION: SLOWING GROWTH; ISSUES IN CALIFORNIA (Granite State Capital Management | Blog)
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